right now we're doing very well in the state of washington. north dakota. excellent, now in nevada. and our people are in the right places and doing the things to become a delegate. it's way too soon to write anybody off. just because somebody is in second or third place, there's a race going on. what if mitt romney isn't the best person? >> people have tried to portray you as a kind of ruthless money machine who some failed, some succeeded, you didn't care, you still got your fee, or you made a ton of money but actually quite a few of the companies that made, a lot of people lost their jobs, their livelihoods and lost money. to me the key question is do you know instinctively from your recollections how many of those companies that you went into would have failed anyway if you hadn't? >> well, there's no question but that a number of places where we went in and invested, we were investing in an enterprise that was in trouble, that -- where the future was very much in doubt for it and we invested in one busy think it lost 50 or $60 or more million the year before we invested and a l